Will religions always exist?

[☆ moxieflux66 ☆]

On 4/26/2024 at 4:15 AM, Wertbag said:

Here in NZ they've already done that.  Haven't used those particular services, but voted in favour of the law change.

Damn! Really? How long has it been? How's it working so far? I have always heard Europe is less (what's the right word? I want to say "anal" but that's what I mean/not what I mean ) about sex? Maybe 'inhibited' is the right word? 

 

In any case, it seems it would work in theory, IMHO. I'm curious to see how it works there. Thanks for the comment! 

[◊ Weezer ◊]

8 hours ago, moxieflux66 said:

 

In any case, it seems it would work in theory, IMHO. I'm curious to see how it works there. Thanks for the comment! 

 

The state of Nevada has allowed prostitution for decades.  Hey, it is the Sodom and Gomorrah of America!  You might want to move to Las Vegas.  

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8 hours ago, Weezer said:

The state of Nevada has allowed prostitution for decades.  Hey, it is the Sodom and Gomorrah of America!  You might want to move to Las Vegas.  

Yes, I know about Nevada. Geez, Weez. I didn't say I wanted to BE a prostitute! 

[Wertbag]

21 hours ago, moxieflux66 said:

Damn! Really? How long has it been? How's it working so far? I have always heard Europe is less (what's the right word? I want to say "anal" but that's what I mean/not what I mean ) about sex? Maybe 'inhibited' is the right word? 

 

In any case, it seems it would work in theory, IMHO. I'm curious to see how it works there. Thanks for the comment! 

I had to double check, the "Prostitution reform bill" was passed in 2003, so we are just pass 20 years on it being legal.  Wasn't long after the Netherlands legalizing it in 2000, becoming the first European country to do so.

Personally, I've seen no negative effects.  People who used the services before it was legal continued to do so, and those who didn't want to didn't change their minds.  It felt like more prostitutes changed to working at gentlemen's clubs or as escorts, and less street walkers.  We used to have red light districts (Fort St and upper K Road for those who know Auckland), but both of those cleaned up and are more mixed commercial areas now.  There are still brothels and strip clubs, but fewer and less in your face.

There is a working girl support service, free health checks and all legal protections.  It's all been good from what I can see.

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18 hours ago, Weezer said:

The state of Nevada has allowed prostitution for decades. 

4 hours ago, Wertbag said:

I had to double check, the "Prostitution reform bill" was passed in 2003, so we are just pass 20 years on it being legal.  Wasn't long after the Netherlands legalizing it in 2000, becoming the first European country to do so.

Personally, I've seen no negative effects.  People who used the services before it was legal continued to do so, and those who didn't want to didn't change their minds.  It felt like more prostitutes changed to working at gentlemen's clubs or as escorts, and less street walkers.  We used to have red light districts (Fort St and upper K Road for those who know Auckland), but both of those cleaned up and are more mixed commercial areas now.  There are still brothels and strip clubs, but fewer and less in your face.

There is a working girl support service, free health checks and all legal protections.  It's all been good from what I can see.

On 4/24/2024 at 1:47 PM, Weezer said:

Also, how to diminish the "original sin" concept that has contributed to our mental and social problems??

Seems to me there has been no visible problems with just treating sex as it is; a biological inevitability. Stop pretending you can stop it and work with it for everyone's benefit. 

 

Since twenty years have elapsed in NZ since this law's reasonable implementation, couldn't we say the positive results of treating sex rationally is a GOOD IDEA and benefits society and economies rather than 'original sin' concepts, which clearly do not work? I have not heard of any ill effects from the legalization of prostitution in Nevada either for that matter. 

 

 

[◊ Weezer ◊]

11 hours ago, moxieflux66 said:

 

Since twenty years have elapsed in NZ since this law's reasonable implementation, couldn't we say the positive results of treating sex rationally is a GOOD IDEA and benefits society and economies rather than 'original sin' concepts, which clearly do not work? I have not heard of any ill effects from the legalization of prostitution in Nevada either for that matter. 

 

 I think we have a misunderstanding.  What you are talking about may have actually been the original sin  (it has been called the oldest profession), but the one I was referring to was the fall of Adam in the Garden of Eden that resulted in us all being born sinners in Gods sight.  We probably should take discussion of the oldest profession to another forum.

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On 4/24/2024 at 1:47 PM, Weezer said:

Also, how to diminish the "original sin" concept that has contributed to our mental and social problems??

 

2 hours ago, Weezer said:

the one I was referring to was the fall of Adam in the Garden of Eden that resulted in us all being born sinners in Gods sight. 

You're losing me here. If it's not the sexual act, then I guess I need more clarification.  Do you mean eating the fruit, defying God's command? 

[◊ Weezer ◊]

23 hours ago, moxieflux66 said:

Do you mean eating the fruit, defying God's command? 

 

Yes.  I was saying we need to get rid of the idea that what Adam and Eve did (called original sin) made all mankind defective and "lost".